tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5870890776473598263.post1384587150823784803..comments2024-03-27T08:06:20.417-07:00Comments on Urbanphile: Kingdom of ?M Cranehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11350529441985859753noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5870890776473598263.post-6999882753920415972008-03-21T19:05:00.000-07:002008-03-21T19:05:00.000-07:00"But, I believe kingdom is so tied to faith in Jes..."But, I believe kingdom is so tied to faith in Jesus that we are severing kingdom from church, kingdom from Jesus, kingdom from discipleship, and are left with nothing more than the social gospel of Protestant Liberalism. (I am hearing the ghosts of Troeltsch and Rauschenbusch.)”<BR/> I guess I have never really understood the idea about how Kingdoms can be separated. Aren't we supposed to bring the kingdom of God to this world as much as possible? I mean Jesus actually said that the Kingdom of God is before you. I don't understand how the social gospel in any severs the kingdom from church, the kingdom from Jesus and the Kingdom from discipleship. Can't you bring the social gospel while connecting it to the church, to Christ, and to discipleship? I just don't necessarily understand why the two have to be separate. It seems to be that we should strive to meet both ends equally, because that would be what Christ desires of us.ThaiTopherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04964652640527925489noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5870890776473598263.post-26217773919482472552008-02-12T05:18:00.000-08:002008-02-12T05:18:00.000-08:00Well said. This too was one of my concerns with th...Well said. This too was one of my concerns with the Emerging(ent)churches. It seems that perhaps faith in Jesus was assumed when we talked about bringing justice and hope and freedom to our world. But when you assume something you never talk about it and I'm glad to see that Jesus is being talked about as the object of our faith and the subject who acts out the verbs of justice, righteousness, and goodwill for all men.Jasonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01698672859878164900noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5870890776473598263.post-58370740544433392902008-02-01T16:58:00.000-08:002008-02-01T16:58:00.000-08:00Andrew, thanks for the clarification on which Bria...Andrew, thanks for the clarification on which Brian Mcl I was quoting. That makes more sense. I'm sorry about the misrepresentation.M Cranehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11350529441985859753noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5870890776473598263.post-32292466105793312872008-01-31T16:57:00.000-08:002008-01-31T16:57:00.000-08:00The Brian you are quoting is Brian Mclaughlin, not...The Brian you are quoting is Brian Mclaughlin, not Brian Mclaren of emergent fame although I think Brian Mclauglin will one day be a well known person in the church world. He's a smart guy and loves Christ's Church.<BR/><BR/>Andrew Ford (a fellow co-pastor with Brian Mclaughlin)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com